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Published on March 26, 2006 By Major Maths In Religion
Huxley's Discovery of Buddhism

An atheist religion, Buddhism doesn't accept the existence of God, an everlasting hereafter, Paradise, or Hell. It supposes that the human spirit is no different from that of an animal and believes in continual karmic returns to the natural world. According to Buddhists, a fish could come back as a mammal in a later life, and a human could come back as a worm. This idea of the "transmigration of souls" between species has important parallels with Darwin's theory of evolution.

One Buddhist researcher has described as follows the relation between Buddhism and evolution:


A caricature of Thomas H. Huxley

Buddhism. . . is quite happy with the theory of evolution. In fact, Buddhist philosophy actually requires evolution to take place-all things are seen as being transient, constantly becoming, existing for a while, and then fading. The idea of unchanging species would not be compatible with Buddhist ontology.6

For this reason, Darwinists have felt sympathetic toward Buddhism and promoted it ever since the 19th century.

The first to express Darwinist admiration for Buddhism was Thomas H. Huxley who, after Darwin himself proposed his theory, played the next most important role in the spread of Darwinism. Huxley appeared on the scene as Darwin's most passionate supporter and became known as "Darwin's bulldog." His debates with scientists and clergy defending the idea of creation, and the passion of his writings and speeches have made him the 19th century's most famous Darwinist.

One little-known fact about Huxley was his keen interest in Buddhism. Even while struggling with representatives of revealed religions like Judaism and Christianity, he regarded Buddhism as appropriate to the kind of secular civilization that he wanted to see established in the West. This is elaborated in the Philosophy East and West article, "Buddhism in Huxley's Evolution and Ethics," which includes the following description of Buddhism from Huxley's book of that name:

[Buddhism is] a system which knows no God in the Western sense; which denies a soul to man; which counts the belief in immortality a blunder and hope of it a sin; which refuses any efficacy to prayer and sacrifice; which bids men look to nothing but their own effortsfor salvation . . . . yet [it] spread over a considerable moiety of the Old World with marvelous rapidity and is still, with whatever base admixture of foreign superstitions, the dominant creed of a large fraction of mankind.7

The only reason for Huxley's admiration of Buddhism is that it-like Huxley and other Darwinists-did not believe in God.

According to Vijitha Rajapakse, a professor at Hawaii University and the author of "Buddhism in Huxley's Evolution and Ethics," Huxley saw a parallel between Buddhism and the atheistic pagan ideas of ancient Greece. This contributed to his admiration:

Huxley's evident tendency to link Buddhist thought with Western ideas, which comes to the fore strikingly in his comments on the concept of substance, was further exemplified at other levels of his discussion as well. He found the nontheistic stance taken by the early Buddhists to be analogous to the outlook of Heracleitus and referred, in addition, to "many parallelisms of Stoicism and Buddhism.". . .8


David Hume

Rajapakse notes that some other 18th and 19th century atheists or agnostics were also great admirers of Buddhism. Parallels between Buddhism and the materialist Western philosophy of the time form part of the thought of David Hume, an 18th century Scottish philosopher and atheist with an antipathy towards religion. Rajapakse writes, "Interestingly enough, the parallelisms that exist between Buddhist and Humean standpoints on the question of a substantial soul were duly noted by certain early commentators on Buddhism" and continues:

Mrs. Rhys Davids [a pioneer translator of early Buddhist texts from Paali into English], for example, remarked that "with regard to the belief in an indwelling spirit or ego, permanent, unchanging, unsuffering, Buddhism took the standpoint two thousand, four hundred years ago of our own Hume of two centuries ago."9

As Rajapakse maintains in his article, Buddhism intrigued many thinkers in Victorian England because they found it in harmony with the ascendant philosophies of the 19th century-atheism and Darwinism. Friedrich Nietzsche, the famous German philosopher, looked with favor on Buddhism for the same reason.


Comments
on Mar 26, 2006

An atheist religion, Buddhism doesn't accept the existence of God


I'm no expert on Buddhism, but I don't remember Buddhism teaching that G-d doesn't exist.
on Mar 26, 2006
I'm no expert on Buddhism, but I don't remember Buddhism teaching that G-d doesn't exist.


Buddhism actually makes no claims or decisions about god existing or not existing. We prefer to concentrate on the here and now rather than the what if's and could be's.

So, it takes a decidedly ambivalent stance about god.
on Mar 26, 2006
It's possible to believe in God and still be buddhist, regardless of what people think. There are also several Christian sects that don't believe in hell, etc. It doesn't serve your argument to behave as ignorantly as those people who claim to be buddhists and then throw their superiority around.
on Mar 26, 2006
I at one time studied the well known Atheists in history. I studied Huxley, and Nietzsche as well as Hitler, Freud and the like. What you said here is true. I remember one book called "The Atheist's Syndrome. It compared all the historical atheists and the similarities they shared. Pretty interesting.

I for one prefer the wisdom of Christ to Buddah but that doesn't mean that I can't appreciate wisdom from others. In the end tho I compare all to what scripture has to say. If it contradicts what I know to be true than I do not hold it dear. Some of Buddah's sayings compliment scripture, and I can accept that.

There are also several Christian sects that don't believe in hell, etc.


All I can say here is that Christ talked more about hell than he did heaven. Why they don't believe beats me!!
on Mar 26, 2006

It's possible to believe in God and still be buddhist, regardless of what people think

Yep, it is.  You can be Buddhist-Christian, Buddhist-Jewish, Buddhist-Hindu, Buddhist-whatever the heck you want.  It places no boundaries on you; it doesn't tell you that you can't believe in God or Gods or even in Goddesses. 

It basically asks you to believe in nothing that you cannot test and try and find for you ownself to be true.

I also believe that we all have a little Buddha within us, regardless of our faith or religion.  We all have buddha-nature - we just call it by different names. 

I wonder why there's all this stink about Buddhism around here lately?  First Sodaiho comes bac, and writes a series of articles (some of which even I found offensive so I can understand why some of y'all were upset about them) - then  Major Maths comes along and has a go at it as well.

Are you British, Major Maths?  It's an English word - 'maths class' rather than 'math class'.  Just wondering.

on Mar 26, 2006
wonder why there's all this stink about Buddhism around here lately? First Sodaiho comes bac, and writes a series of articles (some of which even I found offensive so I can understand why some of y'all were upset about them) - then Major Maths comes along and has a go at it as well


hahah I was wondering that as well. Seems like opposite ends of the spectrum Dharma and I'm thinking you and I maybe are in the middle of these two. Interesting huh?

Yep, it is. You can be Buddhist-Christian, Buddhist-Jewish, Buddhist-Hindu, Buddhist-whatever the heck you want.


I guess you can but I for one have a hard time wrapping my mind around this because it's hard to follow Tom and Dick at the same time forget about Jesus and Buddha. Also I try not to label myself anything anymore. I used to say...I am this or I am that. I do say I am Christian, tho I don't attach any denomination to it...like I am Baptist, or I am Catholic etc.

Keep it simple is my motto. We make things way to hard sometimes.
on Mar 27, 2006
Are you British, Major Maths?

I think, judging my some of his previous articles, he is from India - just like the Buddha - which might explain the ferocity of his opinions.

Living in Asia I am used to Asian christians who view their shiny new western imported religion as vastly superior to their homegrown varieties, which they see as a principle cause of 'backwardness' and lack of social development. Because that is a question of individual and national 'self-esteem', rather than a logical argument, it's hard to argue with and it's almost certainly a waste of time to do so.

Likewise, many highly educated westerners regard their society as less spiritually advanced and look east for religious inspiration. Different strokes for different folks. But I think there is one psychological reality worth bearing in mind: violence, verbal or otherwise, in defence of your religion is usually a sign of weak faith, not strong.

I also notice that a lot of his articles are to do with communal violence against christians in India, which is of course deplorable. Personally I don't think that it justifies his aggressive and insulting attitude, but it probably goes a long way to explain it.

Huxley saw a parallel between Buddhism and the atheistic pagan ideas of ancient Greece

Actually the word 'atheist' was first applied in the ancient world to christians, because they denied the existence of (all but one of) the gods.
on Mar 27, 2006
I think in the first place the provocation started from the other side.Mm is harsh by his tone and tenor.To believe in buddha is buddha to not is also is buddha. Yes is buddha. No is buddha Coffee is coffee. Coffee is no coffee .You are here. You are there and also nowhere at the same time.Thats not what religion is about .Really you have to leave every thing to keep thinking that way.I dont know buddhism but I'd say Pl dont leave room for mud slinging.
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on Mar 27, 2006

Huxley saw a parallel between Buddhism and the atheistic pagan ideas of ancient Greece

How can you be pagan and an atheist?  Pagan believe in many gods/goddesses, whereas atheist deny the existence of any god.  "atheistic pagan" sounds like an oxymoron to me....

I dont know buddhism

Well...then how can you say what you did?  Or, are you simply regurgitating what you read someplace.

Buddhism revolves around the here and now- not the afterlife.  A lot of Buddhist teachings are basically how to live a helpful, productive, peaceful life.  So, there is no reason that a Christian couldn't also be a Buddhist, especially since Buddha is not a deity.

 

on Mar 27, 2006
I echo Dharmagrl - there are many Jews like myself who also are buddhists. That's a good delineation - buddhism is a process for the here and now, and Judaism is my understanding of the past and the future. Jewish Mysticism (hasidism and kaballah, for example) complements elements of Buddhism beautifully. I see no problem with being Buddhist and anything else.